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so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country. host: i want to go to something you said. in terms of what the president said about iraq and afghanistan, saying iraq was the war of choice, afghanistan was a war of necessity. in your view, though, was iraq necessary? if so, why? what did we accomplish? guest: we have not accomplished all that much. it is a debatable question. it depends on a lot of factors that are out of my control. we should not forget that we did get rid of saddam hussein. it was a terrible tyrant to his people and a danger to the region. there
so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country....
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but the president has chosen chuck hagel or is, i guess, going to choose chuck hagel. and chuck hagel isn't going to be working for himself. he's not going to be freelancing as a senator as he was when he made these misstatements which i suspect have upset senator graham and other members of the senate who might be concerned about some of the things he said in the past. he'll be working for the president. when working for the president you follow the president's policies. i don't see this prior statement as being -- first off, they may -- they may have been wrong. he may have made some statements which were inappropriate, as he did. but everybody does, i guess. and now he's going to be working for the president. and carrying the president's policies forward. i think he'll probably carry them forward rather effectively. the thing i like about chuck, and i've known him for a long time. we had our differences when we were in the senate to say the least because he's a pretty strong personality. but i like the fact that he thinks outside the box. the defense department is g
but the president has chosen chuck hagel or is, i guess, going to choose chuck hagel. and chuck hagel isn't going to be working for himself. he's not going to be freelancing as a senator as he was when he made these misstatements which i suspect have upset senator graham and other members of the senate who might be concerned about some of the things he said in the past. he'll be working for the president. when working for the president you follow the president's policies. i don't see this prior...
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i have known chuck hagel for years. i have the greatest sense that he is perhaps of all the candidates fa and away the best one and certainly the president has ratified that in the enormously important statement he made today in supporting his nomination of chuck hagel to be the next secretary of defense. >> ambassador, one of the criticisms is, first of all, that he has not been strong enough supporting israel. in fact, has been too critical of israel. i wanted to give you a chance to address that. also that the real job for defense secretary coming up is going to be budget cutting. getting your arms around a huge organization. i know he is a very successful businessman, but what in his background would make him the best person to find the ways to cut spending and develop the political coalitions with all this accurate simple now from the republican party sf how is he going to get the support in congress to cut things from the pentagon budget? >> there are two important questions here. i address the fiscal one just ver
i have known chuck hagel for years. i have the greatest sense that he is perhaps of all the candidates fa and away the best one and certainly the president has ratified that in the enormously important statement he made today in supporting his nomination of chuck hagel to be the next secretary of defense. >> ambassador, one of the criticisms is, first of all, that he has not been strong enough supporting israel. in fact, has been too critical of israel. i wanted to give you a chance to...
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chuck hagel would be a good fit. i do not see chuck hagel as an easy yes or no. he is a little more complex than that. host: how many allies does chuck hagel have in the senate? guest: when i worked in the senate there was often an occasion where you see senators walk-in, saw the other senators, walked up to them whether they are republican or democrat and started chatting in a collegial relationship. suggest there is anything wrong with this. others would keep their distance and spend more time with their staff. i gather some hagel was one of those. they are not natural senate people. it does not mean they do not have friends. but they do not have a great deal of warm ties. host: joe biden is not a senate person? guest: he grew into one. it wasbefore he had here. hagel's personal ties are limited. in terms of republican support, i think it is nonexistent. we will see what happens in the hearings. i do not think it will be voting for him. him because of friendship. host: you can listen to all of the confirmation hearings on c- span. we're talking with steve clemo
chuck hagel would be a good fit. i do not see chuck hagel as an easy yes or no. he is a little more complex than that. host: how many allies does chuck hagel have in the senate? guest: when i worked in the senate there was often an occasion where you see senators walk-in, saw the other senators, walked up to them whether they are republican or democrat and started chatting in a collegial relationship. suggest there is anything wrong with this. others would keep their distance and spend more...
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there are realists and chuck hagel comes from that camp. and then there are the neo-conservatives, lindsey graham start from south carolina, bill kristol more of that camp. chuck hagel opposed the surge in iraq quite vocally in 2007 and for that he has been seen as a bit an outlier in foreign policy republican foreign policy circles. we're going to see this play out in the next several weeks. >> john: let's talk about the specific controversy. what is chuck hagel's specific record when it comes to israel. >> he has been a long and historyic supporter. he has voted for sanctions against iran and advocateed for diplomat i canic approaches. this mirrors what the american people want. he has consistently supported aide to israel's military and he has great credibility amongst israeli leadership and even the israeli government said last night they don't want to get in the middle of this fight. this is something for the american people to decide, but his record with israel, and we'll see during these hearings will come out and it will be very str
there are realists and chuck hagel comes from that camp. and then there are the neo-conservatives, lindsey graham start from south carolina, bill kristol more of that camp. chuck hagel opposed the surge in iraq quite vocally in 2007 and for that he has been seen as a bit an outlier in foreign policy republican foreign policy circles. we're going to see this play out in the next several weeks. >> john: let's talk about the specific controversy. what is chuck hagel's specific record when it...
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chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over the questions of the use of force. then they split, of course, when barack obama ran for president. chuck hagel's wife endorsed barack obama when he was a candidate. chuck hagel stopped short of it. lots of republicans don't believe hague sl a republican, by the way. mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate yesterday hold his fire, as jim was pointing out, hold his fire. didn't come out against the nominati nomination. everybody has their own po
chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets,...
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chuck hagel writes, so why did we invade iraq? i believe it is the triumph, arrogance and incompetent that took america into this war of choice. chuck hagel, it should be said did not begin his career as a foreign policy apostate, in 2002, he voted for the iraq war. he wanted to tear up the missile treaty we have with russia to build a missile defense shield, and put boots on the ground in kosovo, which was at the edge of the extreme hawkishness. like many in the country, though relatively few in the congress, hagel was changed about the iraq war, he became a cautious critic and ended as an angry opponent. he ended a changed man or at least a changed foreign policy thinker. it was not just the iraq war he began to question by the end. it was the republican party's entire turn towards the unilateral, the very idea that america had the idea to topple the multiple dictators. this is what makes hagel so important, he is one of the few who is changed by iraq. he goes on to write "what the republican foreign policy establishment fears i
chuck hagel writes, so why did we invade iraq? i believe it is the triumph, arrogance and incompetent that took america into this war of choice. chuck hagel, it should be said did not begin his career as a foreign policy apostate, in 2002, he voted for the iraq war. he wanted to tear up the missile treaty we have with russia to build a missile defense shield, and put boots on the ground in kosovo, which was at the edge of the extreme hawkishness. like many in the country, though relatively few...
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i think chuck hagel will look at that. sorry. didn't mean to step on you. >> what do you think, john? >> i think you know the most important thing to him, the most defining moment is service in vietnam and his brother's service. he was wounded twice. once with shrapnel in the chest. if you go back to the senate testimony or on the senate foreign relations committee and debating the surge, he said if you can't take the heat, sell shoes. people ask me all the time as a jewish american that served two tours in iraq and kosovo, deployed three times, are you on this side or that side and i also answer the same thing, i'm on the side for peace. i've been in war. my brother. it goes on and on and on and defines your life and you can't extract it. chuck hagel's never been able to extract the vietnam experience and not just about war in the future and saying we'll talk to people before we fight them. it's what he did for the troops and then came home. he led the fight and a reason we call it a hagel or the webb-hagel gi bill. our kids com
i think chuck hagel will look at that. sorry. didn't mean to step on you. >> what do you think, john? >> i think you know the most important thing to him, the most defining moment is service in vietnam and his brother's service. he was wounded twice. once with shrapnel in the chest. if you go back to the senate testimony or on the senate foreign relations committee and debating the surge, he said if you can't take the heat, sell shoes. people ask me all the time as a jewish american...
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and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from what has happened as policy around him. he said at the time he withdrew his name from consideration in 2009 he wanted to be known as somebody who was against the iraq war, known as somebody who was against torture, enhanced techniques, specifically against water boarding. he said recently he is against the shifting of military power to the cia, treating cia effectively as an air force. he says a lot of the drone strikes should be carried out by the military, under traditional military authority so we're not doing this exotic ex
and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from...
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this man is chuck hagel. chuck hagel enlisted in the army in 1967. he was a sergeant in the infantry. in 1968 -- and this is an anomaly. this is not true of very many other people, if any other people at all. chuck hagel served in the same small patrol in the infantry as his brother. he was 21 at the time. his brother tom was 19. in march 1968, sergeant hagel was on patrol when he was hit by shrapnel from a mine. he still carries some of that shrapnel in his chest today. but that day in 1968, it was his younger brother tom who tore his shirt open and wrapped the bandages around chuck hagel's chest to stop the bleeding. his brother saved him. his younger brother tom had also been hit by shrapnel. they spent time recovering in a field hospital after that incident. they didn't stay in the hospital long, though, because the following month, in april 1968, the two of them were back out together. they were riding in the same armored personnel carrier when it also was hit by a mine in an ambush. quoting from the book "long time passing" here, chuck instantl
this man is chuck hagel. chuck hagel enlisted in the army in 1967. he was a sergeant in the infantry. in 1968 -- and this is an anomaly. this is not true of very many other people, if any other people at all. chuck hagel served in the same small patrol in the infantry as his brother. he was 21 at the time. his brother tom was 19. in march 1968, sergeant hagel was on patrol when he was hit by shrapnel from a mine. he still carries some of that shrapnel in his chest today. but that day in 1968,...
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chuck hagel's was one of those votes. and when it came to the bigger issue of iran sanctions on the senate floor, chuck hagel, again, one of only two senators of the entire u.s. senate to vote against iran sanctions, with so many dictators-- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but if i may, let's talk about the point of israel, what has been your concern with senator hagel on that issue. >> well, there was a letter circulated in the united states senate overwhelmingly, a high number of senators signed the letter, expressing something as simple as solidarity with the democratic jewish state of israel, our salad ally. chuck hagel refused to sign a letter expressing solidarity with israel and what we have seen is that he favors engagement with syria's al-assad, with il when he was alive and also, with all of the dictators who seek to harm u.s. interests and our allies. he wants further engagement with them. he doesn't think that we should penalize those dictators and that harms u.s. national security interests. >>
chuck hagel's was one of those votes. and when it came to the bigger issue of iran sanctions on the senate floor, chuck hagel, again, one of only two senators of the entire u.s. senate to vote against iran sanctions, with so many dictators-- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but if i may, let's talk about the point of israel, what has been your concern with senator hagel on that issue. >> well, there was a letter circulated in the united states senate overwhelmingly, a...
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those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry, what do you think? how tough could this fight get? >> it's looking tough right now. you have some democrats who don't like the comments about gay rights and about israel. you have republicans who don't like his opposition to the iraq wars. you have people on both sides. you don't
those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry, what do you...
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you now have chuck hagel, someone that obama worked closely with in the u.s. senate and he's been an adviser to him now in the white house and then john brennan at cia, someone who's been by his side for four years. >> what is the strategy? first read mentions jack reid and the statement praising chuck hagel. what's the strategy? you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as ten different democratic senators opposed to chuck hagel and it's going to be up to the white house to wage a significant campaign using some democrats like senator jack reid from rhode island to win them over. the white house probably decided that they needed to go ahead and fight for chuck hagel in this matter. i've heard from the white house that the susan rice and john kerry were pretty much tied folks going in to that state department gig. president obama going with john kerry but you are seeing the white house going for a full throttled fight to get and to win chuck hagel and n
you now have chuck hagel, someone that obama worked closely with in the u.s. senate and he's been an adviser to him now in the white house and then john brennan at cia, someone who's been by his side for four years. >> what is the strategy? first read mentions jack reid and the statement praising chuck hagel. what's the strategy? you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as...
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chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg. he was the first openly gay ambassador. appointed by president clinton in 1998. i was at the state department when jim hormel was sworn in bid a lynn albright -- by madeleine albright and tim wu, his partner was there when he was sworn in. we were all in tears watching that historic moment. at the time, chuck hagel said he didn't deserve to be ambassador because he was openly gay and that sent the wrong message. he wouldn't be able to represent all of the people of the united states. i resent that he said that. he was dead wrong but
chuck hagel said it, boom. he also said one time as united states senator, my number one job is to represent what's best for the people of the united states of america. not the government of israel. they're criticizing him for that. i gotta tell you something any united states senator who says the opposite is a traitor right? >> good point! >> bill: yeah, the other thing, this is real personal with me because jim hormel is one of my best friends. he was our ambassador to luxembourg....
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host: chuck hagel. then-senator barack obama and chuck hagel traveling to the middle east. hagel co talks about the limits of power. guest: one of the conditions that president obama and his team said, a lot of demands and expectations around the world. a lot of challenges. america's role is to not challenge the foes, but to be dependable for the allies. i think one of the real challenges is when you think strategically. when you had the middle east crisis, you had rising problems with north korea. that is what chuck hagel is talking about. you need to figure out how, given the limitations, it can matter in certain places. that is a realistic assessment. part of the role of the united states is to go into the interior to redesign and so there are less a threat to the united states. when you have limited power, it makes someone like chuck tickle very skeptical of the ability of the united states to do that -- chuck hagel very skeptical of the ability of united states to do that. when he traveled with president obama, a think this was part of this discussion. host: what relat
host: chuck hagel. then-senator barack obama and chuck hagel traveling to the middle east. hagel co talks about the limits of power. guest: one of the conditions that president obama and his team said, a lot of demands and expectations around the world. a lot of challenges. america's role is to not challenge the foes, but to be dependable for the allies. i think one of the real challenges is when you think strategically. when you had the middle east crisis, you had rising problems with north...
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a lot of republicans don't like chuck hagel. chuck hagel for years now has criticized the iraq war. he's criticized virtually every view john mccain has had about foreign policy. and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack obama says about his own cabinet. another thing important to mention here is like matt was saying a bit is, take the john brennan pick. the john kerry pick. obama's trying to surround himself with people he really is friends with and likes. the first term was people like hillary clinton, jim jones, bob gates. they're big names. those aren't necessarily obama allies. brennan, hagel, kerry, susan rice, these are really people obama knows and is close to. that's what he's trying to build for his second term. >> i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california. always good to
a lot of republicans don't like chuck hagel. chuck hagel for years now has criticized the iraq war. he's criticized virtually every view john mccain has had about foreign policy. and john mccain's a leading figure in the republican party on foreign policy. so it's not surprising to me. what you have to see is how well the white house defends this pick. right now this is a pick that doesn't have a lot of friends on either side of the party. ultimately democrats are going to listen to what barack...
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you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think hagel's comments about richard hormel, i believe, who was going to serve as the u.s. ambassador to lucks emberg and questioned h
you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with...
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i am glad that obama picked chuck hagel. it is about time we got a real american hero that does not have to be vetted by cowards like lindsay gramm and the apac crowd. why doesn't he moved to israel and joined the knesset because many of us don't feel like he feels about israel and their politicians should not have to be vetted by a coward like lieberman or lindsey graham. host: why are you calling them a coward? caller: it is all about israel to these clowns and i am sick of it. we give these people $3 billion per year and all they do is give us guff. that is why. host: we are taking your phone calls this morning. about foreign policy challenges in 2013. this is the opening section of "usa today" - >there are other stories in noting that the former senator, chuck hagel, when he was in office, approved about $38 billion in aid for the jewish state along with multiple trips to beat -- to meet with leaders there. that is a little bit of background on chuck hagel. david, indianapolis, democratic caller -- caller: good morning.
i am glad that obama picked chuck hagel. it is about time we got a real american hero that does not have to be vetted by cowards like lindsay gramm and the apac crowd. why doesn't he moved to israel and joined the knesset because many of us don't feel like he feels about israel and their politicians should not have to be vetted by a coward like lieberman or lindsey graham. host: why are you calling them a coward? caller: it is all about israel to these clowns and i am sick of it. we give these...
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for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is dealing with right now as joe biden continues meetings on the gun issue today. chris alissa, when we talk about president obama and what he is facing in changing his team, when david gregory asked on "meet the press" about hagel, and i think we all expected that the number three democrat in the senate would say, okay, great choice. he said, well, not so much. we'll have to wait to see what happens at the hearing, or something like that. chuck todd and i were sitting at the table on "meet the press" and said whoa. >> we
for chuck hagel. >> let's just point out that we were -- when you see a picture of the east room of the white house, the press corps awaiting, right now hamid karzai and president obama are having lunch, and when they come out, we were told it would be at 1:15. if they come out, they will each make statements and answer questions. clearly the president is also going to be asked about domestic issues. i would suspect guns given that that is one of the prime issues that the white house is...
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it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying, you know what, you don't have to play this partisan political game all the time. here is someone who has been a republican senator from a red state who agrees with me on some issues but disagrees with me on other issues. but we can work together. he's someone who has my confidence. again, like colin powell said. so a bold independent thinker. another thing, here's it is guy who can be the first enlisted man who can ever be secretary here. here's someone who gets the troops. when the president looked at what the troops are going thr
it's just chuck hagel. because, again, so far outside that bipartisan foreign policy mainstream. >> all right, cornell, what does this say about the president, that he refused to back down? >> well, it says that the president -- he's leading. i mean, this certainly -- chuck hagel is someone who fits the sort of description of what the president wants to see more of in washington. just reaching across the aisle. touching republicans. you know, reaching across the aisle and saying,...
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john mccain and others praise senator chuck hagel years ago. we'll take a look at the republican problem there. democratic senator will join us to talk live about the latest on hagel and brennan. >>> protests outside the white house, over john brennan's nomination as cia director. why aren't people talking about the controversy surrounding him more? >> for the american people. >> thank you, america. >> helping people recover and rebuild, this's what we do. >>...
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hagel said this he said they are representing america, our lifestyles and values, and i think chuck hagel is aggressively gay. >> jennifer: right. but he has apologized. >> yes, 14, 15 years later when he is being nominated as secretary of defense. so he'll come home but there will be public gravelling. >> jennifer: and you have same-sex marriage efforts across the country. you have don't ask don't tell off the books. is sexual orientation going to an issue that really rallies the gay community? >> the log cabin republicans are wants to get their name off there a little bit. but hagel did oppose gays in the military, saying the u.s. armed forces are not some sort of social experiment. so he will also get nailed on that. he will spend a good portion of his hearing apologizing for things he did in the past. >> jennifer: but jerry brown do you think he will run for a second term? >> i think so. he is right now being treated for prostate cancer. >> jennifer: right. and everybody is saying he's going to be fine on that. >> the man has tremendous energy. i talked to some california labor leader
hagel said this he said they are representing america, our lifestyles and values, and i think chuck hagel is aggressively gay. >> jennifer: right. but he has apologized. >> yes, 14, 15 years later when he is being nominated as secretary of defense. so he'll come home but there will be public gravelling. >> jennifer: and you have same-sex marriage efforts across the country. you have don't ask don't tell off the books. is sexual orientation going to an issue that really rallies...
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as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. >> a nice guy. >> the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is -- he's straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn't like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside -- but he didn't -- he did not play well in that sandbox. >> i think he has the talents you're talking about. let's look at this resentment, heilmann and then take it to ben. we have to pull a sound bite from lindsey graham accusing him of not being mainstream to try and sum up this resentment. tell me what this resentment is. who is it? by whom? what's the problem? list them for me. >> will you please stop interrupting him? >> i want to hear the names. >> and just let him talk. >> graham, maybe mcconnell, maybe. >> the guy who screwed up earlier this morning. that was horrible. >> to me it comes down to two words. >> let mihim talk. this makes me sad. >> he gave appear interview in 2006 i
as i said, chuck hagel, we love him. we know him. >> a nice guy. >> the foreign policy community knows him and loves him. he is -- he's straight in the mainstream of u.s. foreign policy. but when he was on the hill, he had really sharp elbows. i didn't like him when he was on the hill. i like him now. now that i got to know him outside -- but he didn't -- he did not play well in that sandbox. >> i think he has the talents you're talking about. let's look at this resentment,...
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chuck hagel is a thoughtful person. he comes to his conclusions by analysis, not by knee jerk reaction or saluting any particular color. and i think that's why the president selected him. i think he'll work very, very closely with john kerry, who is a man of a similar thoughtful nature. and i think it's a powerful team. >> former national security adviser brent skowcroft, thanks, we appreciate it. >> february 15th is the x date as one bipartisan group when the government will hit its borrowing limit and when we'll see the next big government showdown over the deficit itself. the republicans have been saying they have leverage in the upcoming debt ceiling debate. but a growing body of evidence hidden in plain sooigt suggesting republican leaders are coming to -- may not be able to execute it. sir, it's great to have you with me this morning. what happens to the leverage that republicans said they had coming up in the next fight? is perception really not reality? >> no, i actually think they have a great deal of leverage.
chuck hagel is a thoughtful person. he comes to his conclusions by analysis, not by knee jerk reaction or saluting any particular color. and i think that's why the president selected him. i think he'll work very, very closely with john kerry, who is a man of a similar thoughtful nature. and i think it's a powerful team. >> former national security adviser brent skowcroft, thanks, we appreciate it. >> february 15th is the x date as one bipartisan group when the government will hit...
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chuck hagel. he is a patriot. he is someone who has done extraordinary work in the united states senate. he served this country with valor in vietnam. he is someone who is currently serving on my intelligence advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> to talk more about the nomination of chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we are joined now by ali gharib writes a middle east blog on the daily beast website. welcome to "democracy now!" talk about the controversy around hagel's in in today by president obama or nominated. >> they floated -- the administration floated his name last month and there's been a firestorm of criticism since then that is come mostly from right-wing republicans, but also a little from pro-israel democratics that is based around his views on israel, iran, some comments he made about a decade ago about a gay nominee to the ambassador the last to be ambassador, and just general right wing republican conservative voting record in his two terms in the senate. all of these a
chuck hagel. he is a patriot. he is someone who has done extraordinary work in the united states senate. he served this country with valor in vietnam. he is someone who is currently serving on my intelligence advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> to talk more about the nomination of chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we are joined now by ali gharib writes a middle east blog on the daily beast website. welcome to "democracy now!" talk about the controversy around...
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. >>> good morning, brace yourself for the next fight in washington, making chuck hagel secretary of defense. even a few top democrats are less than enthusiastic. >> i want him to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. this is president obama's choice, it's not who i would prefer to see as secretary of defense. >> now even before president obama made the announcement, a handful of republicans came out strongly against hagel. >> he's profoundly wrong on a number of the most important national security issues that face our country today like denying iran nuclear weapons, like direct face to face negotiations with state department designated terrorists organizations like hamas, and calming into question our commitment to our principleal l ally in the middle east, israel. >>> trying to not just score board win after a couple of losses, including the fiscal cliff deal. this fight already looks like a campaign, complete with ads. >> president obama, for secretary o
. >>> good morning, brace yourself for the next fight in washington, making chuck hagel secretary of defense. even a few top democrats are less than enthusiastic. >> i want him to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. this is president obama's choice, it's not who i would prefer to see as secretary of defense. >> now even before president obama...
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big fans of chuck hagel. there was a time, joe made this point yesterday on the show, when chuck hagel's brand of republican reform policy and national security outlook was the mainstream of the party. he was vetted for vice president for -- by dick cheney for george w. bush in 2000. he was enough in the mainstream of republican thinking not that long ago, the last republican administration considered for the vice presidential slot. the party has moved far to the right. that's part of what's happened and chuck hagel has not moved with it. part of what's happening, some sense a lot of republicans talked about the israel question, a personal pique in the case of some people and john mccain may be one of them. >> really? >> joe made that point yesterday. there's some people in washington who personally don't like chuck hagel. they may actually like him personally but he rubbed some people the wrong way in the course of doing politics in d.c. what do you think is going on here with someone like senator mccain say
big fans of chuck hagel. there was a time, joe made this point yesterday on the show, when chuck hagel's brand of republican reform policy and national security outlook was the mainstream of the party. he was vetted for vice president for -- by dick cheney for george w. bush in 2000. he was enough in the mainstream of republican thinking not that long ago, the last republican administration considered for the vice presidential slot. the party has moved far to the right. that's part of what's...
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chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person up enlisted rank to serve the secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries to have been wounded in war. the first vietnam veteran to leave the department. chuck hagel will our troops the character and strength. they see one of their own. he is a champion and our troops and military family. he thought to give our veterans the benefit they deserve. as head of the u.s.o. he devoted himself to caring for our troops. having studied under the gi bill he helped lead the fight. having co chaired my and a.i.g. board he knows that our armed forces collect and lives depend on good intelligence. he recognizes that american leadership is indispensable in a dangerous world. i saw this in our travels across the mid
chuck hagel is a leader our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he served with honor alongside his own brother. when he was hit by shrapnel his brother saved him. when his brother was injured by a mine, he risked his life to to pull him to safety. he bears the scars from battles but in our name. this would be historic. he would be the first person up enlisted rank to serve the secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries to have been wounded in war. the first vietnam veteran to leave...
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let's take a listen. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. to this day he bears the scars and shrapnel for battles he fought in our name. we see a decorated combat veteran of character and strength. they see one of their own. most importantly, chuck knows war is not an abstraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do when it's absolutely necessary. >> well, senator hagel paid tribute to the men and women in uniform at the announcement today. let's listen to the nominee himself. >> mr. president, i am grateful for this opportunity to serve our country again and especially its men and women in uniform and their families. these are people that give so much to this nation every day with such dignity and selflessness. this is particularly important at a time as we complete our mission in afghanistan and support the troops and military families who have sacrificed so much over more than a decade
let's take a listen. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. to this day he bears the scars and shrapnel for battles he fought in our name. we see a decorated combat veteran of character and strength. they see one of their own. most importantly, chuck knows war is not an abstraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do...
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republican senator lindsey graham is no fan of chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most an tag aning to antagonistic. he has said not only must we negotiate with hamas this is an in your face nomination to all of us who are supportive of israel. >> anti-hagel television ads are now airing. >> while president obama says all options are on the table for prevent ago nuclear iran, hagel says military action is not a viable, feasible responsible option. president obama, secretary of defense chuck hagel is not a responsible option. >> question. would president obama have nominated hagel if president obama truly believed that hagel was anti-israel? pat. >> no, he would not. and hagel is not anti-israel. what he is, he puts his own country first, and he's tired of these resolutions the israeli lobby brings up and tells him to sign on. this is a gay, john, who has fought for his country and bled for his country and puts his own country first. he does believe in this. like nixon, like ike, like reagan, like bush i, he believes in talking to our advers
republican senator lindsey graham is no fan of chuck hagel. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most an tag aning to antagonistic. he has said not only must we negotiate with hamas this is an in your face nomination to all of us who are supportive of israel. >> anti-hagel television ads are now airing. >> while president obama says all options are on the table for prevent ago nuclear iran, hagel says military action is not a viable, feasible...
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president obama nominates chuck hagel to be secretary of defense. the men charged with raping a young indian woman on a bus arrived in court where proceedings dissolved into chaos. and hitting a high note in south africa. we meet an unlikely star whose voice takes them from -- hollywood. across >> a combat soldier still -- still carries a treadmill in his chest. he will be the first wounded soldier to ever serve as secretary of defense. not everyone is happy with his nomination. >> this is the man president obama wants to lead the largest military force the world has ever known. a former soldier who knows the cost of war. >> he knows war is not an abstraction. he knows the sending young americans to fight and believe in the dark and muddy is something we only do when absolutely necessary. >> he is to be a republican senator, but he is a provocative thick. -- pick. >> i will do my best for my country and those i represent at the pentagon and for all of my citizens. i will always give you my honest and most informed counsel. >> he served in vietnam tw
president obama nominates chuck hagel to be secretary of defense. the men charged with raping a young indian woman on a bus arrived in court where proceedings dissolved into chaos. and hitting a high note in south africa. we meet an unlikely star whose voice takes them from -- hollywood. across >> a combat soldier still -- still carries a treadmill in his chest. he will be the first wounded soldier to ever serve as secretary of defense. not everyone is happy with his nomination. >>...
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hagel. >> chuck hagel is not a responsible option. >> reporter: democrats too have been cold to hagel, a social conservative. republicans complain about his stand on affingts afghanistan -- that we went beyond our mission. and his opposition to the surge in iraq, saying it -- >> represents the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam if it's carried out. >> reporter: but it was a comment about israel and what he called the jewish lobby which intimidates capitol hill that angered many. >> this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us who are supportive of israel. >> reporter: picking a republican to lead the pentagon makes strategic sense for the president with budget cuts looming. >> republicans don't really like chuck hagel. one of their own. >> chuck hagel busts the republican party establishment and opposing the war in iraq. there's no surprise. >> reporter: hagel has the most important supporter. >> i've served with chuck hagel. i know him. he's a patriot. >> reporter: the president will have a fight on his hands with this nomination a
hagel. >> chuck hagel is not a responsible option. >> reporter: democrats too have been cold to hagel, a social conservative. republicans complain about his stand on affingts afghanistan -- that we went beyond our mission. and his opposition to the surge in iraq, saying it -- >> represents the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam if it's carried out. >> reporter: but it was a comment about israel and what he called the jewish lobby which...
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chuck schumer says he will back chuck hagel as defense secretary. secretary of state hillary clinton with a long-time ally, liberia's president ellen johnson surleaf. >> it's important to be here today to see that you have fully recovered from your recent illness. >>> on "today" chelsea clinton speaks for the first time about her mom's recovery. >> she is exuding the energy, the vibrancy, and certainly the mental acuty that she always has. i am so grateful that she is not only fine, but healthy and vibrant and strong and, you know, god willing, will be for the next 65 years of her life. >> and chelsea clinton is also chairing the national day of service on saturday. more on that to come. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. the political cavalry has arrived. new york senator chuck schumer has given his seal of approval to president obama's defense nominee. any decision that could rally senate democrats and signal an easier path to confirmation for former senator chuck hagel. joining us now washington post columnist greta -- white house
chuck schumer says he will back chuck hagel as defense secretary. secretary of state hillary clinton with a long-time ally, liberia's president ellen johnson surleaf. >> it's important to be here today to see that you have fully recovered from your recent illness. >>> on "today" chelsea clinton speaks for the first time about her mom's recovery. >> she is exuding the energy, the vibrancy, and certainly the mental acuty that she always has. i am so grateful that...
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the big story tonight is the pthd's nomination of chuck hagel. i think the fairest thing to do is to give this nomination a solid chance. let's see if he's the kind of person to give this enormous responsibility. personally, i think the attacks on him have been pushed hard by the right wing. he's restrained, skeptical. i am to like him for this reason, like dwight eisenhower. hagel knows the reality of war, not from the top but from the mud level. the g.i.s have to do the actual fighting. so when you watch the hearings, think of the americans out there on post tonight all alone in a place far from home. give some thought to the possibility they'd like to have a pentagon chief who knows just what that's like. and that's "hardball for now," thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you fr tuning in. tonight's lead show down over defense. today, the president officially nominated his choice for defense secretary. vietnam veteran and former gop senator chuck hagel of nebraska. alrea
the big story tonight is the pthd's nomination of chuck hagel. i think the fairest thing to do is to give this nomination a solid chance. let's see if he's the kind of person to give this enormous responsibility. personally, i think the attacks on him have been pushed hard by the right wing. he's restrained, skeptical. i am to like him for this reason, like dwight eisenhower. hagel knows the reality of war, not from the top but from the mud level. the g.i.s have to do the actual fighting. so...
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go time. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> chuck hagel for secretary of defense. >> chuck hagel will have a fight for confirmation. >> the leader our troops deserve. >> the most antagonistic, it is very difficult to imagine the circumstance in which i could support in confirmation. >> yes, he is a serious candidate. >> chuck haig settle not a responsible option. >> he has people going against him. >> john brennan for direct of the central intelligence agency. >> while i consider myself neither a republican or democrat democrat. >> brennan has a little bit of baggage to become c.i.a. >> i think the president likes the idea of an antagonistic nomination. >> he chose petraeus because he resigned in the wake of the sex scandal into well, as you saw chuck hagel former republican senator from nebraska, nominated to be secretary of defense today by the president himself. let's watch. >> obama: chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an an american patriot. he volunteered for the army and vietnam. he represents the bipartisanship that we need more of in washington. for his independence a
go time. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> chuck hagel for secretary of defense. >> chuck hagel will have a fight for confirmation. >> the leader our troops deserve. >> the most antagonistic, it is very difficult to imagine the circumstance in which i could support in confirmation. >> yes, he is a serious candidate. >> chuck haig settle not a responsible option. >> he has people going against him. >> john brennan for direct of the central intelligence...
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hagel, republicans versus republicans over chuck hagel is i will lustrative of what's wrong with the republican party. colin powell again. >> i think what the republican party needs to do now is take a hard look at its self and understand that the country has changed. the country is changing demographically. if the republican party does not change along with the demographic, they are going to be in trouble. >> bill: one other thing that colin powell said that's wrong with the republican party, not only this inability to keep up with changing times, if you will, but they are still carrying around to many of them, a strong breed of intel intelrance. >> there is also a dark a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. what do i mean by that? what i mean by that is: they still sort of look down on minorities. >> so this battle over chuck hagle, eric, is really a battle for the heart and soul of the republican party. isn't it? >> you know, i don't think there is any question that at this point, every battle these guys are fighting, you know in a way is a battle for the heart and
hagel, republicans versus republicans over chuck hagel is i will lustrative of what's wrong with the republican party. colin powell again. >> i think what the republican party needs to do now is take a hard look at its self and understand that the country has changed. the country is changing demographically. if the republican party does not change along with the demographic, they are going to be in trouble. >> bill: one other thing that colin powell said that's wrong with the...
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hagel's friend and he said chuck hagel has the experience. he does have the experience to run a large organization, ie the department of defense. here's what he told wolf. >> he saved the uso from bankruptcy. was the president in 1989 to 1990. he's a businessman and run other large organizations very successfully. he has -- he's one of the bluntest people i know. blunt may not always be great, but he's very blunt. he's very fair. he's judicious. he's unsentimental in the sense that he doesn't let emotion get the best of him. he calculates what is i think in the best interests of the organization he's running. >> so perhaps his willingness to speak up candidly, bluntly, may not be a bad thing, so says this long time friend of the senator's. you disagree? >> i disagree only the sense i don't really understand under what circumstances he would do this. being secretary of defense means two things. it means heading a vast defense establishment and bureaucracy. something that chuck hagel has never done. also means dealing with congress and senator
hagel's friend and he said chuck hagel has the experience. he does have the experience to run a large organization, ie the department of defense. here's what he told wolf. >> he saved the uso from bankruptcy. was the president in 1989 to 1990. he's a businessman and run other large organizations very successfully. he has -- he's one of the bluntest people i know. blunt may not always be great, but he's very blunt. he's very fair. he's judicious. he's unsentimental in the sense that he...
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chuck hagel for secretary ever defense. and john brennan for director of the central intelligence agency. chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as a young private and then sergeant, he served with honor along side his own brother. when chuck was hit by shrapnel, his brother saved him. when his brother was injured bay mine, chuck risked his life to pull him to safety. to this day, chuck bears the scars and shrapnel from battles he fought in our name. chuck hagel's leadership of our military would be historic. he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries who have been wounded in war. and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. as i saw during our visits together to afghanistan and iraq, in chuck hagel our troops see a decorated combat veteran of character and strength. they see one of their own. chuck's a champion of our troops and our veterans and our military fa
chuck hagel for secretary ever defense. and john brennan for director of the central intelligence agency. chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. he enlisted in the army and volunteered for vietnam. as a young private and then sergeant, he served with honor along side his own brother. when chuck was hit by shrapnel, his brother saved him. when his brother was injured bay mine, chuck risked his life to pull him to safety. to this day, chuck bears the scars...
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the problem with chuck hagel is not a phrase. the problem with chuck hagel is a consistent attitude. the next secretary of defense will be -- will likely to have deal with two basic types of issues at the top of the inbox. the first is managing a defense build down, if the sequester goes into effect, a very dramatic defense build down. you need someone with excellent military management experience, which chuck hagel does not have. i think you were too kind to him in the opening presentation. the second challenge will be the challenge of iran. we are probably coming to the extreme decision point where iran in the four years ahead. and chuck hagel has shown himself again and again very credulous on what you can achieve by negotiating with iran. at this point, almost everybody's eyes have been opened to the impossibility of arriving at a negotiated solution, and yet chuck hagel has insisted that such solutions are reachable with iran, hamas, and hezbollah. the question arises is he hard headed enough. is he tough minded enough? it i
the problem with chuck hagel is not a phrase. the problem with chuck hagel is a consistent attitude. the next secretary of defense will be -- will likely to have deal with two basic types of issues at the top of the inbox. the first is managing a defense build down, if the sequester goes into effect, a very dramatic defense build down. you need someone with excellent military management experience, which chuck hagel does not have. i think you were too kind to him in the opening presentation....
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he nominated former senator chuck hagel. the other c.i.a. director, he nominated counterterrorism expert at the white house john brennan. we'll talk about both of them with david sanger of the "new york times" and mark halperin of "time" magazine. >> both mr. brennan and chuck hagel are coming in at exactly the moment when the light footprint strategy has begun to hit some real resistance. the u.s. has not figured out how to intervene in syria in an effective way. it's obviously run into some difficulties in the end of its cyber campaign for now in iran or at least we think it has. so the question is whether or not these two men working together can sort of forge some very new and different ways. >> one of the reasons people have liked chuck hagel over the years, a lot of reasons reporters like him, a lot of reasons his supporters like him is he's a free-speaking guy. he's iconoclastic. he's willing to say things and think about things in a way that's outside not just party orthodoxy but out of the mainstream foreign policy establishment. >>
he nominated former senator chuck hagel. the other c.i.a. director, he nominated counterterrorism expert at the white house john brennan. we'll talk about both of them with david sanger of the "new york times" and mark halperin of "time" magazine. >> both mr. brennan and chuck hagel are coming in at exactly the moment when the light footprint strategy has begun to hit some real resistance. the u.s. has not figured out how to intervene in syria in an effective way. it's...
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chuck hagel and john kerry, they're going to lead u.s. national security policy. president tried to preempt criticism of hagel yesterday, in fact, by selling that biography. almost daring critics to vote against someone who had given so much to this country. >> to this day, chuck bears the scars and the shrapnel from battles he fought in our name. chuck knows that war is not an abstraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud u that's something we only do when it's absolutely necessary. >> that message may be aimed at potential critics, like another vietnam veteran, senator john mccain who hagel split with over the troop surge in iraq. who responded to hagel's nomination saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues and here's the most important part of that quote, "in recent years." he is aware of the quotes he said about hagel six or seven years ago. they've got five purple hearts between them. that's the kind of people we want withdrawing fr
chuck hagel and john kerry, they're going to lead u.s. national security policy. president tried to preempt criticism of hagel yesterday, in fact, by selling that biography. almost daring critics to vote against someone who had given so much to this country. >> to this day, chuck bears the scars and the shrapnel from battles he fought in our name. chuck knows that war is not an abstraction. he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud u that's...
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senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some guys, again, that i think were in pretty bad shape. the morphine and everything was used for them. >> you know, if i ever get out of all this, i am going to do everything i can to assure that war is a last resort. that we, a nation, a people, calls upon to settle a dispute. the horror of it, the pain of it, the suffering of it. >> hagel won two purple hearts for his service in vietnam. he also saved the life of his brother, who was fighting alongside him. hagel has also long called for cuts in defense spending. national corr
senator chuck hagel. in four hours, president obama is expected to name hagel as his choice for defense secretary. that nomination could be bruising. hagel is known for being fiercely independent and the loudest outcry could come from hagel's own fellow republicans. they say he's the wrong choice to oversee the military. the combat veteran, who was badly wounded in vietnam, is openly wary of armed conflict. >> the pain, and we didn't have any medics there with us, and we did have some...